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Faking latency depends on reference patterns and good guessing. Faking
bandwidth does likewise since the kinds of interconnect topologies you
are complaining about depend on that locality to function well.
Apparently FFT doesn't let you fake bandwidth or latency.
My point is that latency is determined by physical constraints, like the - Re: Why does Intel favor thin rectangular CPUs?
Why did you bring it up, then? It *is* a fairly close approximation to
the "guaranteed not to be exceeded" peak flops, which is interesting to
know for some sorts of code.
Cheers, - Re: Synthesise latest CPU design in an old library.
Would it be easier to make an old design in a new process?
That might be one of the things the OP wanted to investigate.
To wit: how many of the changes between the old and new designs are simply
coping with the difference in memory speeds, how many are taking advantage
of the new speeds to do something that wasn't previously possible, and how - Re: Why does Intel favor thin rectangular CPUs?
In article <7vr9njFvo...@mid.individual.n et>,
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Unpredictability is the key. If you know or can predict the future
with reasonable certainty, latency is a non-issue. In most cases, we
are a long way from that limit.
I'll be happy never to hear "latency is forever" again.
The linpack benchmark shows NOTHING, except that the processors are in
the same room and connected. What's the multiplier? 0.7, 0.8? Who - Re: Why does Intel favor thin rectangular CPUs?
I wasn't there. You can't *really* fake either of them. You can
sometimes finesse bandwidth with compression or other redundancy-encoding
strategies, but that is usually limited and not always appropriate.
No. Real latency of the sequentially-dependent-operati ons-kind can't be
faked. Most of what you've seen as "latency faking" is lots and lots of - Re: Why does Intel favor thin rectangular CPUs?
You keep saying that, and it makes me grind my teeth every time you
do. When Seymour said, "You can't fake it," he was talking about
*bandwidth*, not latency. You *can* fake latency, and IBM did some of
the most fundamental work in that area. You *cannot* fake bandwidth.
Either show the money, or admit your fraud. Bandwidth does *not* - Re: Why does Intel favor thin rectangular CPUs?
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Interesting part. As I said a few days ago, bandwidth costs money.
Latency is with us always.
Is each chip 16 bits wide, time 10G/sec? The pictures were a little
confusing, as to whether the thing with all of the 32k*72 bit arrays
and the 16 bits in and out was a chip or a subsystem. - Re: Synthesise latest CPU design in an old library.
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